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Savoring The Moment - Ian’s Throwback Episode | Retrospect Ep.208
We are going back to our roots with these Throwback Episodes. One of the hosts comes with a topic, and the other two have no idea what it is. We hope you enjoy it!
In this week’s episode we discussed what it means to live in the moment. That could mean appreciating a favorite song, a perfect cup of coffee, a fleeting moment, or even a relationship before it changes or is gone. Each of us has lived through different times and different experiences, so I want to hear from you. What comes to mind when you think of something worth savoring?
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Ian 0:01
Life moves fast, and sometimes we don't realize how special a moment is until it's gone. Think back. Maybe it was hearing a song on the radio that felt like it was written just for you, or the smell of coffee brewing in the kitchen before anyone else is awake. Maybe it was a quiet summer night with friends where nothing extraordinary happened, but you still remember the laughter. Those are the moments that we carry with us, the ones worth savoring. Today, we're going to talk about what it means to pause and hold on to those pieces of life, whether it's music, a cup of coffee, or relationships that shape who we are, each of us at this table comes from a different generation, and I hope that today we will uncover what it truly means to savor the moment you Ian, welcome
Ian 1:00
to the retrospect podcast, a show where people come together from different walks of life and discuss a topic from their generation's perspective. My name is Ian, and as always, I'm joined by Jason.
Jason 1:20
Hello, everyone
Ian 1:21
and Stoney,
Stoney 1:21
Hello.
Ian 1:22
How's it going? Yeah, well,
Jason 1:27
that is not what I expected, or remotely. This is a little bit of a quandary on this one. It's a very deep this is a very deep question that you pose out
Stoney 1:45
there, and Joe from Texas is going to be upset because I was talking to him last night and he was thinking it was going to
Jason 1:54
be alien. Says another
Ian 1:56
episode, maybe a different Yeah, any more research before we can do that. One,
Stoney 2:04
have sex with the alien.
Jason 2:07
I would hate to go to the websites that I have to go to to figure all that out.
Stoney 2:12
I have savored the moments when we have picked on about alien sex. I've been savoring those moments before years. So that's what does that count?
Ian 2:20
Yeah. Again, I was, I've been thinking about this recently, and I've been I again, whenever, whenever Stoney initially kind of brought up this idea of, kind of having what we call throwback episodes, kind of, you know what this show was in its in its infancy, was one of the three guests would come with a topic, and the other ones wouldn't know about it, and it was an interesting spark to a conversation. And so I've been scratching my head the past couple of weeks since Stoney kind of came up with this idea and and Jason took the first one last week, and I claimed the second week. And so I was like, man, okay, so what? So what I want to talk about, because I don't want it to talk about something that not only I feel like I feel pretty strong about, but also could be interesting to get your perspectives on, or that you could talk about as well, and it not be something because, again, obviously I have some pretty niche interests that I'm pretty passionate about. And I was like, I could sit here and have a whole TED talk just by myself. And I was like, that's not an interesting episode, but I think I found a way to incorporate those things that I was talking about. I'm a big fan of music and the emotional response I think it gives me, and I think it really does give to people, as Stoney has mentioned about cooking food for people, and like enjoying these moments, and like the fact that, like, you can really curate this like experience for people and like and I feel that way about coffee. A lot of times I make coffee for for Jason and myself.
Stoney 3:49
Every week he used to make it for me, so I can't taste nothing now,
Ian 3:53
but I still make you a nice glass of water, like you request. And so I get that same thing of like, I can put myself into this cup of coffee, and I can curate this experience, and the more I was thinking about this, and I've also been pretty nostalgically lately about relationships and friendships and family members and how family members have passed on and, you know, just kind of getting nostalgic and And and I've also been in the past few months trying to really slow myself down and just take a breath and, like, appreciate life in front of me. And then I think that was what really hit me, where I was as for me most of the time, I was having a nice, hot shower one morning, and I have a lot of my great creative ideas in the shower, and I was thinking about it, and I was like, and I was like, maybe it's just that easy. What does it really mean to just like, savor a moment, to savor a friendship, to just like, really appreciate these like, little things that I think can kind of make up who we are, but also how it also changes over time. So I. So one of the first kind of questions I was going to ask you guys, if we're ready to kind of sneak into that, is, what is something small in your day that you that you always savor? For me, personally, I will never forget living in Canada and being so far away from friends and family, but I worked at a coffee shop, and the coffee shop was on like, the edge of the city, and it had this big glass window that would overlook like this, like the prairie field out in what looked like in the middle of nowhere, but the city was all behind us, and there was nothing like like opening up the coffee shop, making myself a cup of coffee, and then, like watching the sunrise over this like field, and I always remember that, and I was like that, even something as simple as that, like in your day to day routine, is there anything like that that kind of comes to your mind, that you may well?
Jason 5:57
I mean, my favorite time is when I wake up and I sit down in my recliner and I'm first drinking my coffee. It's my time to kind of contemplate the day prayer time. And I there is a sense of peace, because I don't hear anything outside, right? And there's nothing what time
Ian 6:29
is that usually about 530 in the morning. Yeah, that's before things start waking up,
Jason 6:34
right? And especially, it's even better, you know, on the weekends, because if you you get up that early. There's really nothing moving that that early work, you know. So I would venture to say that is probably my time that I can sit and just kind of be at peace, you know, not that I'm, you know, at not at peace during the day. There's something special about that particular time that is just been special to me. And that's kind of how I, you know, start the day. Yeah, I get it, you know, it's it.
Ian 7:14
There's also a little bit for me to, like, when coming home from work and not having anything else planned, like, when I have, like, the whole even to not to not do anything, it's just kind of sit
Jason 7:24
down and go, ah, you know, now, when I was, when I, before I had gone back to work, I used those opportunities during the morning, on those particular days I would go run, yeah, and there was a particular, neighborhood that's across from mine that I run through as part of my route, and there's a big lake in the back, and the street kind of dead ends, and I would just stop and just look at The Lake, and it was just, it's something about that place and moment was brought me peace and and so, and I missed that because I don't, I don't get to do it anymore. It just something about that time of the morning when I did it, everybody's at work. I was home. So the neighborhood is, is, you know, or it's just not busy, because most people are leaving or gone, yeah, but it was just something about that place that I still think about when I'm running. It's like, I can't wait to get to that spot, yeah, and I don't know why it's always hit me that way. It I remember the first time I my first run after my retirement, yeah, and had that time. It just that idea that I had nowhere to go and I could just focus on that moment. I wasn't worried about what I was doing later on today. I could care less. Yeah, it kind of was kind of right. I was in that was the, really, the first time in a long time that I felt like I was in that moment and really kind of sat in that moment. There's just not too many things that at least I can think of right now off the top of my head that really, and I'm not, I'm not saying that maybe times in the past there may have been moments, you know, I'm I don't remember, but you know, recent in my life is that spot overlooking the lake, yeah? And, you know, seeing all the geese and everything else, and I just it put me in a good place, yeah? And stay there for about 10 minutes and just take it in and and then continue. On.
Ian 10:00
I was saying, I was saying, it kind of feels like the same feeling you get from, like, a vacation where, like, you can just kind of sit there for a second
Jason 10:08
and go, I don't, kind of where to be. I can just that really, you know, from from working all your life, I mean, you're always you got job, you're thinking about, you know, projects. There's things you got to do on and on and on and on. And, you know, I was fortunate enough to be able to to retire at my age, right and and still be very active. And so it was really just, I don't know. I mean, i i that run on those particular mornings was very special to me, and I really do miss that. Yeah. I mean, I'm with you. I really very, I very much miss those. I mean, I said I do run, of course, but it's just different, a little different. It's a little different. And so, yeah. So, yeah, I can there are moments that I can just take a scene in and just be at peace.
Ian 11:12
What about you, Stoney?
Stoney 11:14
Well, that's one of the things for me right now dealing with this head injury, is I don't know what I've forgotten, and so for me right now, there's a few things that are there still, but I also don't know what I've forgotten, and that just it just kills me every day, right? And it has led to a lot of depression, because I've been on five of the seven continents, all right, I've been places, I've met people, I've done things, I've seen things, and I think that's one of the reasons I hold so so tight to Miranda. It's like today while we were waiting on Jason to come by and pick me up to come here. I was just looking at her and just enjoying the moment that we're sitting. We have these little high back leather chairs that in a lot of little sitting reading and coffee area. They're very cool and like, I'm just sitting there looking at her, going, Wow, this woman actually married me. Boy, has she made some dumb decisions.
Jason 12:30
Oh, Stoney, you sell yourself short
Stoney 12:32
and but no, I'm actually sitting there just in awe of that moment, right? You know that I get to do this, yeah, with this awesome person, and that's kind of what I'm left with. I have some other things that are still there. I remember the first time when I was in Colorado and I got to see a thunderstorm from the
Ian 12:56
top. Oh, yeah, I think you mentioned that to me
Stoney 12:58
because I lived above, clouds. I lived at, you know, almost 9000 feet at one time, and so you look down a mile to see the thunderstorm, and I'm kind of glad that I still have that memory, yeah, because that was just like you said. I just sat there for hours, right? I got no place to be, because this is cool, and you just watch that thunderstorm, and you could kind of, you're so high, you kind of watch these clouds just come towards you and then start splitting off. And it was just kind of so surreal. Yeah, it was kind of movie like, and it
Ian 13:37
probably feels like you're flying at that point,
Stoney 13:41
almost, yeah. And then, you know, just that kind of stuff. I'm just afraid I'm losing Yeah, and you don't know what you can't remember, right? So I don't know how much I've already forgotten. Yeah, I get and it's, it's killing me. It's killing me. That's one of those things that I frustrate with every day. Yeah, and so I just try to hold on. I've got some journals that I'm writing some stuff down and trying to keep track of things because, like we were talking in the pre show, I don't go anywhere without ways on I don't go because I can get in the car and forget where I was going. You know, it's kind of like that day I went and was getting in the car and went, Oh, damn, I forgot my keys. And went to grab my keys in my pocket and realized I forgot to put my pants on. There you go. And so went back in the house, put my pants on, still forgot to get the keys, and had to go back and get the keys after I forgot my pants, and it was just one day at a time, yeah.
Ian 14:52
Well, it seems like a couple of us have have talked about coffee so far, something I. Wanted to kind of do right here again, while we're still in this kind of beginning part of the show, before it gets too deep, because I do have some question, they kind of get a little bit deeper. I like it is, do you remember, like, talk about, generally, generationally, like the contrasts. Do you remember what, what your parents did for coffee or, like, for a morning routine? Do you remember, like, what you're Well, I
Stoney 15:21
grew up with Maxwell House. There you go. You know what? What was that wake you up in the morning? How did the little the rift go? Or it was a whole commercial, and the only young kid was coming home and for Christmas, and he started the coffee machine and woke everybody remember that
Ian 15:41
the only one I know is Folgers. It's in your cup.
Jason 15:46
Well, you know, my calls as a kid, my daddy would get up very early. I mean, he was like a three, 334, o'clock in the morning. Just, you know, just, he was in bed at eight o'clock. He just, he fell asleep early. But it's like, I mean, Dad, I mean, my dad would would have caught he would drink a pot of coffee, or sometimes two pots before we got
Stoney 16:11
up, the old percolator, the old percolator, where
Jason 16:15
it well, yeah, that was down. Now, if you really want to go back, I mean, when I remember my grand, my grandmother and my grandfather, who we stayed a lot with as kids, you know, he they were farmers. You know, they were now, of course, when I was with them, they weren't on a farm, but he was out in his yard, his yard,
Ian 16:38
every day he was still on farmer time, right?
Jason 16:40
I mean, his routine was, I mean, he'd get up, grandma would have, you know, that old coffee and the white kettle in the boiling water, type deal. She cooked breakfast for him, and then he was outside until lunch, wow. And then he come back in, she'd have lunch for him, and he would come, you know, yeah, work till that afternoon. And, you know, I just, I remember those, you know, those scenes, yeah, it's, you know, now looking back on those years, it's just how life was different, Oh, yeah. And it was just, I mean, he would wait, wait for us on the school bus when we got off there, and he'd take our bags, and grandma would have either hot bread waiting for us, or she would have, She'd cook us french fries or pancakes or whatever we were, you know, kids, You of course, taste change, and I want this today versus that, you know, and she would have all that, but, yeah, there's a lot of lot of lot of great, great memories I look back on now.
Ian 17:53
I think, if I'm not mistaken, go ahead. No, go ahead. My grandmother used to do, I think it was Maxwell House. It was either folders, I can't remember, but she would always get the instant coffee, yeah, and it was in like a glass jar with, like, a little, like pop top. And I'll never forget, I don't know when it was, but, like, I never liked the taste of coffee. And she would always tell me this story, because she would drink black coffee. And I remember tasting one time. I was like, Oh, why do you drink this grandma? And she's like, you know, she said it's an acquired taste. And she was like, I used to ask for cream and sugar when I was in the office world, but the interns are the people who are getting the coffee. Could never get it right, and it was always wrong. So I just started to say, just give it to me black. And I'll never forget that. And so she's like, and then now I make, I make instant coffee. And she used to make it all the time, and I'll never forget whenever they they went, it was like a, like a tall glass jar or some sort of container, and they went to, like plastic, and she was so upset. She's like, it's not the same. It's not the same in this, like plastic jug. And it wasn't, and I agree it was definitely, I don't think it,
Stoney 18:59
but once again, my memory serves me terrible. And it was actually a Folgers Coffee commercial, and I looked it up in 1985 and it's titled, Peter comes home for Christmas. Yeah, I remember that. And his sister greets him, yeah, at the door because she heard him, and they go and brew the coffee to wake the parents up and everybody's excited that Peter is home for Christmas. Yay. Nice, but that was an 85 Wow.
Jason 19:28
You think about, you know that? Talk about that. I mean, if you really kind of want to think about what commercials and stuff that really stood out to me as a kid growing up, I mean, the one that's world famous that everybody probably knows about is the Coca Cola commercial. Oh yeah, you know that was a biggie. Well, that
Stoney 19:51
one and the Super Bowl commercial with Bud Light, where the guy is carting the girl for a romantic night on the sled. Right? And he bends down to get the ring, and the horse farts in her face, but she's holding a candle and blows, you know, but, you know, it's kind of funny that we're talking about nostalgia now. We're really into kind of commercials that bring us back to this time, take us back here, bring us back there. What was the movie with? Rambo Sylvester, Stallone, oh yeah, and Wesley Snipes, demolition. Demolition Man, remember the only music they could listen to in this elite
Jason 20:34
society, new world? And what
Stoney 20:38
authoritarian what's okay? What is it now? What's the buzzword for these new worlds? But all they can listen to is old commercials.
Jason 20:48
I know everything else is illegal, and the only restaurant was Taco Bell. Taco Bell won
Stoney 20:53
the restaurant. You mean
Ian 20:57
dystopian? Is that dystopian
Stoney 21:00
I was looking for. Thank you very much. And but it's kind of funny that we talk about that, because that movie brought that to light, that that was the nostalgia. People remember these things. I don't because of my brain damage, but we're talking about going back and thinking about these times where it just brings you back to something
Ian 21:20
speaking of Taco Bell and nostalgia. They they're like, bringing back all, like, the 90s menu right now, all the like, the logo is all different and, like, it's like the old one. Like, yeah, they're like, they're trying to rebrand. Well, I don't about rebrand or just, I think, like, creating hype or something.
Stoney 21:36
That's something that kind of really bugs me to Japan has the greatest toilets in the world, and they don't have a taco bell or Mexican restaurants. Why own a Ferrari if you can't take it out on the interstate and blow, you know, just burn it up. You know, they have the greatest toilets on the planet, and they don't use them.
Jason 21:54
Hey, Stoney, you have a way of looking at things. It just absolutely amazes me,
Stoney 22:00
hopefully in a good way.
Ian 22:04
It does, because you're not wrong.
Stoney 22:08
Well, after five years of being together with Miranda, she finally realized that I am usually right. She just doesn't like my tone.
Ian 22:15
There you go. Hey, that's, that's half the battle.
Jason 22:20
And I just, yeah, I just, you know, a lot of that stuff just brings back, just to me, you know, considering that the times that we're living in now, yeah, it brings me back to a point when it was just a different world.
Stoney 22:35
And we did an episode on was it really better back then?
Jason 22:39
Well, I mean, I just think it just you didn't have the acrimony that you've got now. And I just think it was a little bit, I don't know, it just to me, the commercials, oh yeah, kind of reflected the times I remember the famous one that just made me laugh. It was the bread and butter, wholesome bread and the diner and they, I like bread and butter for that commercial. And, yeah, but, you know, that brings me, you know, just kind of puts me in a place that it just seemed like life was just a lot simpler,
Stoney 23:19
or about about when you were driving as a kid, you could drive by the Bread Company. Oh, yeah. Oh, that aroma, I don't want to say odor. Aroma, just filled up blocks and blocks and blocks of that fresh bread. Oh, man, that would be in this vein of taking you back to that moment, because you could actually go in and get a loaf of bread right off the factory floor, hot off the press. Can't do that anymore. You know, that was just fantastic.
Jason 23:56
Remember that I just, I remember the just, I don't know the sense of, I remember the first time I was able to take my bike and actually, really ride my bike far away from the house, yeah, and think about it. I mean, it was just kind of like I was on my own and right? I did own thing. And as that's part of that my generation was, you know, this was our generation. Was the ones where, you know, Mama went to work also. So, you know, we're called the latch key generation, and that was because we were, we were kind of left our own devices. So, I mean, there is a degree of an independent streak within my generation, you know, we're very skeptical of authorities and or, you know, just kind of in things in general. I think that kind of runs through my generation. But, you know, I think of the wonder and. Of being able to explore and and do things. And it just, it saddens me now, because, I mean, it's just completely different world now. And I can imagine as a child right now, trying to navigate that right now and then again. You know, that's all they know. So they're taking it in as they, as they grow up and and they'll reflect on that time when they get, you know, my age and and how life was then, and then, you know, my time frame will be in the ancient past. But you know, I mean it changes, but yeah, I mean, you know, moments like that, where you know, sense of adventure, it's something new, being able to walk where you want to walk to, and not fear for your safety and right. I remember the, you know, my first relationship, and you know, and you know, think about how you felt at that time and yeah, yeah.
Ian 26:03
I mean, I'm curious about looking back. Is there a moment in your life that you didn't realize that you should have savored until later, later in life, or after it was all done with. Is there a specific,
Jason 26:24
well, I it kind of is just really a sad on my end. I mean, I hate to be kind of a sad about, you know, kind of a depressing type of tone to this. But I don't know why it sticks out my brain, but at the time, you know, you know my father was dying, and, but I remember I was going out and doing stuff what a typical teenage boy does at those time and, and I remember my dad telling me he goes, You need to stay with me. You know, I don't exactly remember the tone, you know, the exact wording, but basically to the effect of, you know, I'm not going to be here forever and and, of course, as a kid, you don't really kind of gravity does, you know, the gravity doesn't hit you in so I remember that because I used to, as a kid, go hunting with my father quite a bit. And my dad was an avid hunter, as far as, like bird and like duck and dove and those kind of things, was never a big, you know, like deer. Was never deer hunter, but duck and dove and rabbit and squirrel, oh, yeah, and I went on numerous occasions. He was also a big fisherman and saltwater, yeah. So, I mean, I was outdoors a lot as a young kid and and it just, you know, I think about, you know, maybe I should have savored those moments. And I remember the first time telling him I didn't want to go hunting because I was more to go do my own thing. It's hard. And I remember the look on his face, so, you know, I think back on now maybe I should have gone and I didn't just, and it's something that just you think about at the time, and you know, it's, can't do anything about it now, but, but, yeah, then so I brought back a lot of regret of that maybe I should have spent more time. Maybe it was my way of trying to process what was going on, knowing he was going to die. Yeah, and you know, how old were you when he passed? Well, he eventually I was 18, okay, or 19 years old when he died. But my dad really was sick for, really five years before that, and a little bit even before that. I mean, so this was something that's kind of we dealt with for, for several years before he died. But you know, I think about those times when I was with him. And just, you know, how exciting killing, killing my first dove, you know, and, and I remember, you know, the doves we sometimes you shoot them, and they'd follow the ground. They wouldn't be dead. So you had to wring their necks. Yeah, I remember you got grabbed that dog, you got ring that neck. And I was like, Oh my gosh. It was traumatizing at first, because it was like, I'm killing something, yeah, but
Stoney 29:25
that happened to me on my first time I went squirrel hunting, okay? And I hate to say this, but I was dating somebody, and her father was a captain in the local police department, okay? And he looked at me and he says, Boy, do you hunt? And I said, I hunt deer a little bit, sir. But he says, Well, I hunt squirrels. You will be going with me this weekend. Okay, I was a pistol and rifle guy, you know, I knew very little about shotguns. I mean, if I was going to use a 22 I could, you know, rifle, I couldn't. Shot their eyeball out, right? But he was a shotgun Hunter, and we're there, and he says, Okay, this is what you do. You just walk out there. You go stand under a tree. You can sit down, you can lean on it, whatever you want to do, and just be quiet. And then when the squirrel starts to move, shoot the squirrel said, Okay, I can do that. He goes, I'm go this way. You go that way, and when I hear you shoot, I'm gonna come check on you. And I said, Okay, all right, that's fine. So we take off, and I'm under this tree, and I'm a hunter or fisherman that I don't actually have to catch something. I'm happy just being in the wilderness, and if I'm fishing, as long as my line is wet, I'm just as happy, right? If I'm hunting, if I'm out, I'm fine. And all of a sudden, sure enough, I heard this squirrel just, you know, barking at me, yeah. And so I reached up, shot. The squirrel fell down. He was mad. He commenced to come after me and was gonna whoop my ass. And so I reached back with the shotgun, and I shot him again, and the only thing that was left was his tail, yep. And so this gentleman goes, Wow. I need to go check on him. He done got two, yeah. And so he comes up to me, and I'm holding the tail, and I said, y'all eat these things. What happened? I said, Well, he commenced to come what my butt? And he says, you grab the tail and you smack its head on the tree, and you kill it. You don't shoot it again with a shotgun, and so that was the first time I went hunting for
Ian 31:44
squirrel crazy for me in this this kind of question I asked, there was a moment. There was a moment when I didn't realize that I'd been working for this moment until after it had already passed and I didn't appreciate it. I've been working my butt off for so long to, like, get
Stoney 32:05
to joining the retrospect podcast, sorry.
Ian 32:09
Like, no no to work on, like, to be a stage hand on a big stage for, like, some big artists. We're talking like, a bunch of money, a bunch of equipment, like, I mean, you know, all the, all the entertainment value you could, the money could buy. And I remember, like, busting my butt so hard to get to this moment, and I finally got the opportunity, and I was so busy, like trying to be on time and trying to get all my stuff together, and like, trying to, like, be there, like, to fix this problem, and to do all these things. And I was like, so distracted by, like, making sure I was like, perfect in the moment, like I didn't like everyone else around me was, like, enjoying the time that they were having, because they do this all the time. And this was like, a first time thing for me, and it probably wasn't going to be something that I was going to be something that I was going to do forever. I was just and I was overworking myself, and I had a heart, and I didn't fully appreciate the moment. I didn't fully, like, let myself live in that moment and like, just like, breathe and have a little fun, because I was too stressed, and I was too, you know, in my own head, about making it all perfect, that, like, when it all was over with, and like, a day or two had passed, I was like, I don't, I don't really have any memories from like, that experience. And I've been working so hard to get here to, like, to get to this point where I could, like, say that I was, like, working on a big stage with big artists and like, oh my gosh, this is such a big thing that like, and the excitement, like, ended, like, with the day it all began. And like, now that it's all over with, I was like, Man, I don't really have a whole lot to like show for this like, except for this story about being wore out and tired. And I was like, That's not, that's not what that field is. It's supposed to be fun and lively and musical And anyways, so I just, I was thinking about that as that, as this question, you know, as I had wrote down this question about moments like that, like you were saying, where, like you don't, you don't realize what you kind of, that cool opportunity, or that that thing or that person, or whatever it was that you had, until it's all over with. And you're like, Man, I should have savored that moment, whenever it was happening more, but
Stoney 34:22
I had somewhat of an experience like that. I was in protective services for a long time, and back in 1988 and 89 I think it was, I was a bodyguard of a man who was one of the long cronies in Louisiana, and he was just immensely wealthy. And I kind of wish, like with this podcast and things like that, I knew this back then, yeah, because right before he passed, I was like rock. We called him rock, by the way, rock. It, all these stories you're telling me, I want to start recording them, because people need to know this, people, and that's some of the things that I'm losing now, right? Is all of those stories that he used to tell me, and I kind of wish I'd have known then, what I know now about, like, you know, this studio and recording and doing things, and the little Yeah, remote stuff, right? Because I would have loved to have recorded him, was like, recording for posterity, yeah, right. And the stories, because he was there through a lot of the the early 1900 things, yeah, for Louisiana. And I would have liked to have done that and I participated in it, but now that my memory is a problem, I'm no, I'm losing even that even further, and it just makes me sad, yeah, that his story can't be told. Yeah, because he came into Louisiana when he was 18 or 19 years old, with it like a couple of dollars again, his hand right, got off of some boat on the Mississippi coming down, and wound up being one of the richest men in Louisiana at one American dream, you know. And he just had a fantastic story, but he built a lot of the stuff around LSU, okay, and real estate and businesses and things was his kind of thing. And it just, it's sad, yeah. And now I'm just like, I want to, if I didn't cause another head injury, I want to beat my head up against the wall, because I'm forgetting the stuff that, you know, I learned from him, and that just drives that just drives me crazy.
Ian 36:44
Yeah, that's I get that there was some moments with, like, a music mentor that I had, that I I'm not super close with anymore, and I remember having long conversations with him about music and about music theory and all that stuff, and so like, and I really learned a whole lot from him and and, man, it was just, I have a couple of those conversations recorded because we were like, doing, like, tracking and recording for things. And he, like, played, like the piano, and, like, did some cool things. And I, like, I learned so much in those moments. So there's, like you're saying, recording for posterity. I listen back. Sometimes I go, Ah, what a simpler time. But this is going to kind of lead into the next thing I was going to ask. I think technology, I think can help us out a lot of ways in this for like, you know, cataloging stories and and able to help savoring these moments. But do you think that technology has made it harder or easier to savor the moment? To savor moments?
Stoney 37:50
Well, it I think it's a fake savor the moment in a way. I think it's easy to record like I wanted to record this stuff. I think it's easier to record it. But do you lose some of the authenticity and some of the emotion behind it? Putting everything on Facebook, Oh, yay, and everybody's got to see it, and then if you don't get enough likes, you're depressed about it, yeah, yeah.
Jason 38:14
I mean there, I think, I think that's more prevalent in the younger generations that are more techy, you know, matter of fact. Speaking of that question, I kind of pulled up some stuff here, okay, bye, bye generation. I'm just some interesting stuff here that kind of taps into this question a little bit for baby boomers, their focus is deep emotional connections tradition and nostalgia, and they often kind of capture those moments through physical photos, handwritten letters and storytelling. And they tend to value face to face interactions, and may cherish keeping scrapbooks or photo albums. My parents, you know, tons of these photo albums. They really want to focus on the experience itself, savoring family gatherings and meaningful conversations without always feeling the need to document digitally. Now you get into Generation X. Now we're starting to balance tradition with technology, because, you know, as our generation, this stuff started to kind of change, you know, we're comfortable with both analog and digital media. So we can do the photo album, or we can do the more modern means of USB drives and CDs and how that works. And now cloud sharing. You know they you know we're often pragmatic. We might might document to share with others, but we still value the real experience. We appreciate moments that provide learning or growth, like mile. Stones in kids lives are career achievements. Now you get into the millennials experience sharing and connectivity, strong use of smartphones, social media platforms and instant sharing. They often curate moments online as part of their identity and social connection, kind of like Stoney just kind of mentioned. They love documenting, but there's also a growing awareness of the fear of missing out, yeah, and the risk of being too distracted by the device. And they say yeah, basically, many seek balance by practicing mindfulness or digital detoxes. I kind of like that term digital detoxes. I think that's kind of neat. Generation Z visual storytelling and authenticity, heavily reliant on smartphones and other apps. They tend to value immediacy and creative expression and capturing moments. This generation craves genuine, raw experiences, but often filter their moments through social media lenses. There's a strong desire for connection, but sometimes pressure to perform or present life in a certain way. I can see that just kind of in our in our politics now. I can see how that's coming out. Yeah. And then, of course, the newest generation, generation, alpha AI. You know, it's aI now, yeah. So they may experience moments more through a digital interface, but as you know, they also have the potential for richer, multi sensory engagement through technology. And I think right now, where I'm picking up some of this, you're seeing a lot of people in this kind of age bracket. You kind of see a religious religious resurgence among this generation. I think the I hate to say it, but the promises of the Boomers and Gen X never really came to fruition. And I think now what people are wanting to kind of like, what you told us was a lie, okay? And I'm looking for something a little bit more real, right? And I think that's where you're seeing some of that, that some of that movement, is coming
Stoney 42:33
from all the movements going back to the boomer generation. It was the X Gen that told all the lies and said, we can be better, and we can be kinder and we can be gentler. And now they're going back. There's this huge movement right now of the F O, F, F, A, F O, child discipline thing. And they're going, there's this new way tell your kids No, make them accountable at an early age. Oh, wait, that was the boomer generation. This is not something new. But hey, you can own it. Take it if it makes you happy. And I don't have to hear another kid screaming on the cereal aisle because you told them, no, please take ownership of this one. But yes, I agree with you, but it's more of the X Gen and the Boomers were the last hardcore. Y'all are tough and independent, but you were also promising, you know, a kinder, gentler stuff.
Jason 43:26
Well, I would venture to say that we were still tough. I would venture, say, depends on what what boomers. I think my generation was shaped by the forces that the boomers brought about, and I think I don't know if I would posture it in a way to say that we promised our kids a certain type of life. I think we we inherited. We took what we could take. As I said, there's an independent streak that runs through my generation, and part of that is because we were left alone. We did not have the guidance of a of a mother, that the previous previous generations had that kind of helped shape that we had to find the x
Stoney 44:22
Gen all were the mothers that went to work. We didn't make y'all any promises. You went outside, you drank from the water fountain, you went to the canal and caught the cross, and you said, You know what we can do better than this, and we're going to go to work. And now we need to pay for a twice big house. We need the new car up front
Ian 44:42
well and well, that is also the society that there was those
Stoney 44:45
y'all made the promises we kept y'all tough. We made you tough. And you got older and said, We're gonna move as far away from our parents we can Okay, and
Ian 44:54
okay, we can move away from this. Well, that's also like being a kid early up. Well, because, because, again, if you
Stoney 45:02
What do we do that? If you could apologize to another generation, and that was one that I couldn't be there, y'all whooped the shit out, but you got,
Ian 45:10
not you, but the boomer generation
Jason 45:14
ruined the world for them, and they then had to ruin it for us, right? I think it just it trickles down. You take you take whatever is there a young person, all they have is what they have. So they you have to kind of process your world around you. Okay, this is what we got to do, and you do it. But there that that shapes a line of thinking. Now, I do believe in kind of what you said, that there are many in the Gen X that unfortunately, I think the independent streak hurt, because I think it was, it was getting away from it takes a village to raise a child, and I think part of that is because of that independence. I'm going to do what I want to do. It's just what it is. And I'm saying, you know, when you're talking about these things, you're talking very broadly. There's always exceptions within certain things, like, I mean, the boomer generation runs from 1946 to 1964 Yeah, that's a huge gap from someone that was born right after World War Two versus someone born on the verge of the Vietnam era, you know. So you kind of have to kind of take these things somewhat with a grain of salt,
Ian 46:39
right? But also, what I'm trying to say is, let's not pretend that like I was going into the workforce when boomers still, like, were in, like, higher up in corporate America, and making it harder for me to, like, stick with a job, right? Because of like, they're, you know, they were laying off people, like, right, right upon retirement, like, being getting to get in their bag, but not caring about none of that. That's all I was saying. There's a stereotype, and that's what I'm not saying. It's you. I'm just saying that's one. But to kind of get back to what I was wanting to say here is that looking back, sometimes it's it's not things or moments so much, but maybe it's people that we wish we had savored more. I know you had kind of mentioned your dad for a second. Is there someone that you can someone that you think of in that way, that I feel like shaped you or molded you, that like or again, or another way of looking at it too, is like, what? What have you learned? Have you learned about, like, savoring relationships with people as you've gotten older in your life, and like, looking back, is there someone in your life that I think really has, like,
Stoney 47:51
a Miranda? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I had to wait 56 years for, you know, and it I, I try to save every moment I have right you know, we're kind of picking on each other right now. It's we're a couple of weeks from being together five years. It's five years already. Five years get out. Time flies by. We've been married for three years and some change.
Ian 48:16
Yeah, because that was, that was right after right around covid, yeah, and that's crazy.
Stoney 48:20
We I just that's the biggest thing I think, that I'm afraid of losing, right? Is the night I met her, is the little things along the way that meant so much, right? Like finding out that she can shoot. Or, yeah, firearms instructor, finding out this new girl that you met from Canada. So you're thinking, oh, man, she's gonna hate guns. No, this one can shoot. Those moments. The the night that I met her, we met some friends out at this little Mexican restaurant and did not have a Japanese toilet to blow up afterwards. And then we spent time in the parking lot talking to each other and just her awareness, there's somebody walking up behind you. They're about, you know, 14 steps to your left, they're walking toward us, yeah, and just being amazed that someone was as aware as I am those little things is what made it I don't want to lose that, and I'm trying to hold on, and I try to play them over and over and over in my head. I know that sounds corny, no, but I'm trying not to lose them. Of course, those things are so important to me, yeah, like today, when I was just kind of looking at her, I was playing those things in my head, trying not to lose them. But then I'm sitting there going, what have I forgotten? Right? You know? And one of the things. Things that that Jason said about all of this, the recorded history that we have, we hit now we have these fantastic things, right? But recorded memory is not a new thing, yeah, um, one of the things that has always impressed me, like with the Native Americans, is their medicine bag. Yeah, you've mentioned this before, yeah, and their medicine bag was not medicine in the normal sense that you think it is. But when you're going through life, and I actually have a large container of little things, and I went through it the other day, and it's kind of interesting. You said this because I went and I can't remember why some of these things are in here. So what I'm trying to do now is, is what a medicine bag was, is you're a brave or medicine doctor, or what at medicine man, or whatever you were doing in the tribe, and you were going through a bad time, and you found this feather or this rock or this stick or something that reminded you of this time that you got through it, You would stuff this in your medicine bag, then something else would happen. And you may have 10 or 15 things in this bag. This was your memory, yeah, your memory device. And let's say your buddy was going through a hard time. You could see it on his face, he's having this terrible time going through this. Maybe he lost something or somebody. And so what you do is is you sat in front of the fire, and you broke out your medicine bag and you laid it out, and you told the story of each piece and what you were going through through each one of these pieces and how you made it out. You made it out alive. You made it out stronger. This helped you. And then you put it back in the bag, and you presented it to him as medicine, as spiritual inside medicine. And and then basically he was, I don't want to use the word required, but it was, he remembered the stories of that bag, and then he added to it, love them, and then he added to it, and then he added to it. And one day, it may be your same buddy before, or somebody else, and so you're telling the story of maybe the tribe by the time you have passed this bag four or five times with all of these memories. And it's an amazing thing because, and I love what we do here on the show is we tell stories. You're not telling a story when you're taking all these selfies on Facebook and Instagram and Tiktok, you're kind of telling stories, but there's no real heart to it, yeah, and I like things with heart, and that's why these medicine bags and things like that. I mean, we need to get back to that kind of storytelling. I think, yeah, because there's energy in that there's passion. You're truly helping. I hope we help people on the show. Yeah, I think we tell stories. And what were the three rules? You have to be authentic, authentic, I'm not saying that, right? Authentic, authentic, genuine, and you can't be ugly, right? But still tell a story that hopefully we can help people, yeah, because we're kind of putting our memories and our thought process, and maybe this is our medicine bag, you know, the retrospect medicine bag, but that's that's how people help people and get through that. And that's what being nostalgic is about. Because all of a sudden you long for something. Or this brings you back to this time. Or how does it make you feel? Yeah, the smile, you know, when you looked at Jason when we were talking about that Folgers commercial, oh, yeah, that brought him to a time that he could remember. And there was, there's probably a story or two behind that that that you know he hasn't divulged to us, but you could see that story something in his eye, and those things are what's so fascinating to me, and telling stories, and why I wish I could have recorded rock, yeah, or the story of Miranda. And I right, I don't want to lose
Ian 54:38
that. Well, I think you've told the story of you and Miranda a handful of times in the show.
Stoney 54:42
So times on the show, so Well, it's
Ian 54:43
there for posterity, a bag of episodes somewhere.
Stoney 54:48
I hope the listeners aren't
Ian 54:49
bored of that. No, definitely not.
Stoney 54:51
Although we did Coke, a couple of good emails about the fact I love my Miranda, so I I'm.
Ian 55:00
I'm brought back to my my best friend Ben. There's been a handful of times where he and I have done the relationship that he and I have had throughout the years, and the amount of times that he has picked me up when I was down, and I picked him up when he was down, and all these moments that like I have had the opportunity to savor with him, whether it be here, whether it be out of the state, whether it be out of the country, like all these moments that I've had that I do have pictures of that. I do have all these memories of that I'm like, Man, this person has really he has been a bad influence on me in some regards, to be honest, but at the same time, he has also helped get me out of my shell, and has helped turn me into a better person, a better version of myself, through encouragement and through an example and through a lot of other things. And so I look back on like that, on my relationship with him, and now he and I have been through so much together as friends, and I look back and I and again, as I've gotten older and as I've grown up, and some friends have come and some friends have gone, I look back and I'm like, Man, I really, on occasion, I just call up and just go, how you doing? I really miss you, and I just want to let you know I appreciate you, because that's, that's the kind of guy, he is, best. That's it for me.
Jason 56:18
But, well, you know, as I said, talking about, you know, and if Stoney talked about him and Miranda, and, course, all that, you know, I remember when I my with Tracy, you know. I remember when I first saw her, yeah, and, you know, I was just coming out of a relationship at the time I wreck it, saw her church, yeah, and you know something about I just felt like it was a little, a little, little angel on my shoulder. Kept telling me, ask this girl out. Ass, this girl out and and we eventually, she sent me her number. Remember that? But I didn't really call her for like, six months.
Ian 57:02
Oh my gosh, okay, yeah,
Jason 57:05
I didn't people kind of, it's like, Well, I'm sure if you were getting out of relationship, I'm sure her family had a lot of names they will probably call, especially her sisters. And I can understand that, yeah, but I was not quite ready yet, but I do remember a time I was at church, and I'm an usher at my church, so, okay, I was handing out bulletins after, after mass, okay? And I remember I kind of stand in the where I stand is like as a little table. I'm in the middle, okay? So people are going around me, you know, left both sides of me, and she came up, and I looked at her, and I know she was like, This guy's never gonna go. And I said, I told her, I said, I will call you. And all she told me, I will pray for you. Oh, stop, yeah, dang, at that point, I knew real there's no girl has ever told me that ever, wow, told me that I will pray for you, and she walked out. Wow, that's
Ian 58:20
crazy how that little moment
Jason 58:22
probably meant more to you than at that point. I was like, something just clicked, yeah? And eventually we, you know, we, we eventually went on a date in December. So, yeah, but yeah, so it was kind of that moment. I will always remember that moment. I don't know why it sticks with me, but it does
Ian 58:48
so special, yeah, and now you're engaged,
Jason 58:51
and now we're engaged and fixing to be married, which I never thought in my life I would ever be married. Be honest with you, I would, pretty much was just relegating myself to just, you know, aging, aging alone. And I'm not saying I would never date or whatever, but I never thought I would ever get married, but, but yeah, that moment was very special.
Ian 59:20
The last thing I have for us today is, if you could give one piece of advice to a younger generation, or even your younger self, about savoring life, what would it be for me? I think I would really tell either a younger generation or tell myself, that's the one. That's why I gave that caveat, because I think I'm telling this to myself more than anything else. Anything else, is just slow, slow down and don't be as anxious about getting everything perfect, everything I like. I'm very much a perfectionist. I like things be done a certain way. You can. You can just take a step back and let it be a little imperfect, a little human. You. And enjoy the moment and connect with the people around you more.
Stoney 1:00:04
I like that, yeah, I like that. And I can I bounce off of you digital what was the digital detox? Detox? Yeah, that would be my advice. Go through a digital detox and participate in life. Yeah, because what you're doing on the internet is not real. Go out there and see something. Go out there and experience something. Go be with real people. Go find go see something magnificent. Go see a seventh wonder of the world. Go see the Grand Canyon. Go do something to actually have something to savor, right? Because, if you sit and you stay on your computer or you stay on your phone, that's your whole world, right? There's nothing to savor. Go do something that would be mine. Actually, you said, talk to the younger generation. Oh, yeah. Go experience something. Take that time. Put the phone down, yeah, and go do something.
Jason 1:01:21
Participation. Are you saying? So I'm trying to understand your question and make you said, if you can go back in time and tell a younger if you the younger generation or or is it a younger you?
Ian 1:01:32
What I, what I, what I wrote down was, if you could give one piece of advice to a younger generation, a younger one, but I put in there, I did a little slash because I was like, or even your younger self, if you were to look back at yourself, right?
Jason 1:01:45
If you can get a time machine and go back and go see future generation, an 18 year old Jason or an 18 year old Stoney, yeah, what
Stoney 1:01:53
would you I took it as, that's
Ian 1:01:56
why I said both things. I'd be
Jason 1:01:57
very curious. Would you tell yourself something different? If you could go back and see yourself at 18 years old again, what would you tell a younger Stoney?
Ian 1:02:07
Well, that's what, that's what I that's why i That's why I said that. Because I think the thing I was saying, it would be a both end. I would tell a younger generation this, but I think I would also tell my younger self this as well. If I had the opportunity of slow down and connect more with the people around you. Because, like, even back then, even though the phones weren't as big of a deal, I still think that I was in my own head, and I was so wrapped up in everything else that, like, I didn't focus on the people around me and connect with them on a deeper level. Get to know them, get to hear their stories. When I feel like I feel like, as the younger generation has that as well, where I feel like I'd say the same thing to you know, you know, savor life.
Stoney 1:02:42
I wouldn't go back to a younger person. I would go back seven years. Okay, hey, that's, don't take that job. There you go. I would have never gone to work for that organization as much as I love some of the people. Yeah, I've never been filled with hate, but I hate my time there. I hate some of the people there. I hate the fact that this accident happened. Yeah, I would go back and tell myself to go do something else. Don't even go down that road, or don't take that walk where I was walking when I had the accident, and that's the only thing that I would change about my life, because if you actually take one thing away, you're not the same person. Oh, that's true. And so I love everything I've done. I've worked for some amazing people in protective services, some good people, some bad people, but it made me who I am, and it helped my moral compass. It helped me be who I am, and the only thing that has ever detracted from that was going to work for this organization and having this accident, and that's the only thing that I would go back and change. I participated in life, right? I went and saw and did and loved and experienced some of the most amazing things on this world, and then now, because of the stupid accident you know, that's the only that's as far back as I would go. If that works in your criteria, it's okay. That's where I would go. Either don't take that walk or don't even go work for that organization, because the the leadership of this organization is terrible.
Jason 1:04:40
And think about it, though, but at the same time you say that, and I understand the sentiment, but I just think on something, on a more everyday, relevant situation, if I never meet you, I'm never on this podcast.
Stoney 1:05:00
Yeah, yeah, okay, so maybe I would just
Jason 1:05:03
go back to the, don't take that walk. You're right. I mean, I would have never met you. I would have never known about this. Who knows? Maybe I would have never even started this. I don't know, yeah, but it's a good point. Yeah. I mean, it's just that's a perfect example. You remove one thing, you change everything, you change
Ian 1:05:19
everything. Change everything. But even if, even if we change this a little bit, and you if, let's say you were to give advice to a younger generation about stopping and savoring life, what would you,
Jason 1:05:28
well, I, you know, I'll kind of do it twofold. I would, I would first, would tell the younger generation that, you know, engage the world definitely be real. You know, talk to people, learn how to communicate with people, correct and and understand that we're never all going to agree on everything, but, and that's okay, yeah, it really is. Yeah, life goes life goes on. And so that would probably be my biggest piece of advice, considering what I see, what's going on now that no one could communicate with each other anymore. We've lost that. We've lost that ability to do that. So my advice would be, integrate more with humanity and learn to communicate and understand each other the best you can, right? And if I can go back and tell me, yes, yeah, if I can go back to being, you know, 18 or 17 years old again, I would say it's going to be okay. And be more bold.
Stoney 1:06:39
There you go. Okay, wow, be more bold.
Jason 1:06:44
Show confidence more. Don't be so afraid of messing up. Yeah, that's good. And that would be my self critique of myself. And I love that about you well
Ian 1:06:58
as I that's probably I was saying before I just, I just, I would tell myself to just connect more with people around me.
Stoney 1:07:03
I think sounds like there's a common thread. Yeah, that's why I was going.
Ian 1:07:06
I was all this. I was very I was very dissipation, I was very socially awkward, I was very nervous. But I think deep down, I had the ability to do that. It just took me getting out of my shell and doing that. And I think that I was in my own head about a lot of it. And I think if I, if I was to, if I was to talk to a younger generation that is also socially awkward or can't, didn't have social skills, or else, to look back at myself in that same predicament, that was one thing I would say, is like there, there are interesting people around you in your daily life. Everyone's got a story. Everyone has life experience that they've gone through, whether good, bad or indifferent or whatever, and connecting with those people around you and and sharing their stories as something that's very special, and that's and I, that's what I would say.
Stoney 1:07:53
But see three generations common threats, love it. That's what it's all about.
Ian 1:08:00
But let's hear what you guys have to say out there who are listening to this podcast. We have, we have the email address get infinite together@gmail.com, we also have comment sections on YouTube and Spotify. There is a, there's a function in, I think a lot of texts are, yeah, it's like a send us a send us a text thing in a lot of our descriptions that I think sends it to, like our podcast distributor, but there's no names or email addresses or any kind of
Stoney 1:08:29
send us a text. Please put your name yeah in the text Yes, and send us either the complete number, because it only gives us the last four digits of your number. Send us the complete number or your email address, because y'all have some interesting stuff to say, yes and some great requests, but we have no way to get back to you or or,
Ian 1:08:47
as always again, the that that get offended together@gmail.com is our contact email as well. So if you want to, you could send info that way as well. If this text function is not working correctly,
Stoney 1:09:05
but in the website, oh, and the website, prospect, podcast, yeah.
Ian 1:09:10
Well, maybe what's worth savoring isn't so much about the thing or the person itself, but the way it shapes us and how it stays with us as we've shared today. What's worth savoring often isn't just the song or the cup of coffee or even the moment itself. It's the way it shapes us, the way it lingers long after the moment has passed. Sometimes we only realize its value in hindsight, but that doesn't make it any less real. Baby, savoring is really about learning to be present, about pausing long enough to notice what's already in your hands before it slips away. My hope is that as you go about your own. Days, you'll find those small things, those fleeting moments, and take the time to hold on to them, because in the end, those are the pieces of life that stay with us. Thank you so much for listening. And until next week, bye,
Jason 1:10:15
bye, goodbye everyone, and God
Stoney 1:10:18
bless final question, is anybody worried what my horse hockey is going to be next week? Thanks for hanging out with us today. You're the best. Peace.