The Day Gravity Stopped (For 7 Seconds) | Retrospect Ep.225

In this week’s episode we discussed the viral conspiracy theory claiming NASA predicted a brief loss of gravity, called Project Anchor. The claim says Earth will lose gravity for seven seconds. We dig into where this idea came from, why it spread, and what physics actually says would happen if gravity really did “turn off.”

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Gravity loss, Earth's mass, black holes, NASA debunk, project anchor, solar eclipse, conspiracy theories, Doomsday Clock, nuclear weapons, Artemis mission, moon landing, space exploration, misinformation, social media, global order.
Jason  
There's a rumor online that one day Earth could just lose gravity, no warning, no countdown, just people, cars, oceans drifting in the sky like a low budget sci fi scene. Let's lock in reality fast. Gravity isn't a switch you turn off. It's not powered by Earth's core, magnets or some hidden system. Gravity happens because matter exists. If Earth has mass, Earth has gravity for it to turn off, the planet itself would have to disappear. And if that happens, floating is the least of our problems. But here's where it gets interesting. Gravity does change slightly, slowly across the universe. Stars lose mass. Black holes bend space time. Ripples from cosmic collisions pass through earth constantly. We live inside a force so constant we forget it's there. So tonight isn't about doomsday physics. It's about what gravity really is, why we still don't fully understand it, and why the universe is stranger than the rumors, but far more fascinating.

Ian  
You retrospect podcast, a show where people come together from different walks of life and discuss a topic from their generation's perspective. My name is Ian, and as always, I'm joined by Stoney,

Ian  
Hello

Ian  
 and Jason.

Jason  
Hello, everyone.

Ian  
How's it going? Oh, we're doing good. Everyone make it to the freeze.

Jason  
Okay, yeah, we're fixing to have another one. Really, we really are.

Ian  
Oh no. I didn't look at that. Okay, look, I

Jason  
have to say something. I thought I would never, ever consider this. Here we go. I was driving. I was really hungry. Can I start? I thought about going to a McDonald's. No way, you french fries. You're not like what came over me because I haven't eaten at a McDonald's, I can't tell you forever, forever I don't eat at McDonald's anymore or Taco Bell, right?

Stoney   
Well, I have a question for you, if actually, McDonald's sold hot dogs, which I think in some places they do, would you be able to, with a straight face, order a Mac Weiner and tell him to supersize it. I'm just curious.

Jason  
I bring up McDonald's.

Ian  
That's wild. I You

Stoney   
almost went to McDonald's.

Jason  
I almost went, and people are going to be like, Oh, wow. And yes, I've really had, like, a brain seizure or something, even even contemplate McDonald's, because I just can't do it anymore. No. And I know plenty of people go to McDonald's. That's fine. You know? That's fine. I mean, whatever you like. I used to eat those French fries.

Stoney   
And french fries used to be good when they use tallow. I've heard now that they use the saturated fats and stuff. It's not the same. I think they use what was a beef tallow they use? They used to use beef pal, 100% beef tallow, and those were the best french fries on the planet. Oh, yeah, I've heard, and they don't do that anymore.

Jason  
Yeah. I remember seeing french fries. You drop them in your car, and they'd be like their year later, and it's still the same, yeah,

Ian  
yeah. That's crazy.

Jason  
All that stuff, all those artificial stuff you put in your body, you know, yeah, but, yeah, but we're fixing to fix into get cold again. That's wild. Yeah, I don't think this can be any ice. You know, McDonald's has hot chocolate, right? Yeah? I know. Really, you know what I do? You know what interesting I used to anyway, I do like McDonald's coffee. Okay?

Ian  
I've heard it's not bad. Funny enough,

Stoney   
McDonald's has their own unique coffee blend. And I don't know if y'all know this, they have their own Coca Cola blend, yeah, yeah. That they get is their own blend of of drink, of the syrup. And I thought that was interesting all the time. Oh, yeah, but their coffee is the same, too. A lot of people love their coffee.

Jason  
Yeah, they do. They do have good coffee. I will say that

Ian  
this episode is not sponsored by McDonald's, unless you want to give us, yeah,

Jason  
no, I just thought that was just kind of a weird, just kind of a weird moment, you know.

Stoney   
But what if they sponsored us the Mac Weiner meals,

Ian  
you know, what? I'd be honored, or the retrospect MC Weiner, like, think I like that. Oh yeah, that's funny, though. I will say, if we're talking about fast food joints, we don't go too often, but I have a craving for is Chick fil A for me, mine's like, every now and then I'll go, I'll be, I know a lot of Chick Fil in the area, and I'm like, wow, that actually doesn't sound too bad, right? Me?

Stoney   
Every. Stepson Magnus, loves, loves, loves their macaroni and cheese.

Ian  
It's pretty good. I've had

Stoney   
he could eat 10 containers

Ian  
and not miss a beat. That's interesting. Well, it's not really what we're talking about today, but it's still fun to I'm still interested to hear what's going on with this, you know, the rest of this freeze, that's kind of I didn't know we're having

Stoney   
coming back. Having bound. It'll be here. We're recording on Thursday, yes, and tomorrow evening, I think it'll be back. It'll start again. Okay, yeah. And Saturday and Sunday, it's gonna be back down. Cold, cold, cold.

Jason  
Okay, I think Saturday, I think I saw the high like, 37

Ian  
Wow. Okay, yeah,

Stoney   
but lows back in the 20s.

Jason  
Low 20s may even be 19.

Ian  
No pipes busted around here. So I was glad the PAT I think last year, I think I had a bit of an accident because of a late night faucet turn off, and I didn't realize it. But we're good now. So that was it was good.

Jason  
Yeah, yeah. You got to take some precautions, of course, when he starts getting that cold, and how long it's really the duration of freezes more so than, right, just a single night of really cold weather. But yeah, it's that would be a horrible situation.

Stoney   
That's nothing, especially now that they put the pipes in the attic, mostly, yeah, early houses, the piping went underneath crawl spaces and things like that, and then came up. And you really needed, obviously, you really needed to insulate those pipes. But if it burst, it went down to the ground right now that the pipes are in the attic, comes even your hot water pipe is in the attic. Well, here's Fun fact, most people don't realize they just turn the cold water on. Well, if your hot water pipe is not running, guess what? That's cold water, and it can still freeze. So depending on your house, and I'm not a complete expert, but my plumbing friends say, depending on your house, you need to drip the hot water too. Because if you got to have a little warmth going through, of course, yeah. And if it has that, it will help. But you also got to insulate it. If your pipe, if your pipes are in the attic, you can use a pool noodle, but they have specific just go put some on it. It'll help, right? Because if that pops that's coming all over your house. That's what happened, two or three rooms and destroy them.

Ian  
Yeah, that's what happened with the office space that I was in during the big snow storm. You say last year I had the the big, the whole office building, the water main was in the in the roof, and it busted.

Stoney   
That's supposed to be underground coming up, and then I

Ian  
think that may be what it is. But regardless, over the, like the utility room that we have, like the, like the maintenance closet, or whatever, it busted, and it it was, it flooded the whole office building. That was not fun,

Jason  
terrible, terrible situation to come home to. Oh, man, for me, it

Ian  
was walking into the office. The the snow hadn't fully melted, and we, a few of us, have walked into the office and we're like, Oh no, this was bad. They don't know.

Jason  
They don't really down south. They really don't insulate pipes. And it's simple, because you really don't have to here. We just don't get the kind of cold that up north gets, but it seems like

Ian  
January, February, it can get chilly. Well, for the past three or four years now, I feel like it's been getting below freezing, which is kind of hasn't been the normal throughout me growing up, I

Jason  
remember it getting quite chilly, okay, you know growing up, I mean, at times it's gotten cold, okay, yeah, it'll get down. I mean, what I mean, we had that record cold, I remember, got down to like eight degrees.

Stoney   
That's crazy sickness. Here comes the cold, the flu and everything else. You know,

Jason  
it was, that was, I remember that. I remember 1989 was very vivid. I was interested to melt pipes outside where I was living at the time, my mom, my dad was sick and he couldn't do anything. And wow, I was out there trying to melt pipes. But I think I remember a low of of

Ian  
eight wild.

Jason  
I mean, the highs even, right? The highs were like 26 degrees. That's crazy. Yeah, it stayed freezing the entire for multiple days. I mean, everything, that's when, that's when I know Exxon had

Stoney   
its blowout, big blow up on Christmas Eve. Yeah, wow, okay,

Jason  
yeah, it's a, just that was a, yeah, it's gotten cold, scary, yeah,

Stoney   
but that was two guys smoking. That was two guys smoking in the plant. And there is actually a dip in the road where some pipes go across. And I think it was methane. I can't remember this brain damage, but some. Gas had settled into that, whoa, and as they drove through it, and they're not supposed to be smoking, yeah, but as they drove through it with their cigarettes, it ignited that and traveled, yeah? And it was such a big explosion, it was knocking people out of their beds other side of LSU, it's wild, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was, that was significant. I bet that's scary stuff. Oh, yeah. Did y'all hear where John Travolta was hospitalized for a suspected covid 19? No, yep, but doctors now confirmed that it was only a Saturday Night Fever, and they assure everyone that he's staying alive, but apparently his chills were multiplying.

Jason  
Stoney's always got a good one ready.

Stoney   
Well, I got, what was your, your the one you read the other day was out of Samantha. She said, I was funny. I got, yeah, keep

Jason  
it going. I see what happened? You've created a monster. No, yeah, it's, uh, yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's gonna get chilly, but you know, at the end of the day, I know we, we get into late spring and summer, and we're like begging, because it's a hellscape outside with heat and and

Stoney   
then you got, once everything starts turning green down here, you got all the allergies. Oh yes, goodness gracious, yeah.

Jason  
I gotta remember, I always, I always mess up. Sometimes it's I fail to put a mask on, because I deal with allergies. I fail to put a mask on when I go out there that first time to cut grass. Oh yeah, when you get out there and you really start stirring all that stuff up, man, it can hit you like a ton of bricks. So I tried now to remember to wear a mask.

Stoney   
Yeah, I like seeing videos where they shake the whole tree, yeah, and you can just see all that pollen come. Wow. Check that out. Okay, just YouTube. Yeah, you know, trees with pollen. Oh, my God, it's like this huge cloud that just kind of covers the whole area.

Ian  
I mean, I know, I know. I have a white vehicle, and that's one I'll notice whenever the yellow green is, yeah, all the windows and everything, turns a nice shade of yellow. Yeah, my vehicle,

Jason  
so, yeah. Well, this topic, yes, to me,

Ian  
I think Stoney, you had kind of

Jason  
mentioned what, what's going on with this seven seconds of no gravity?

Stoney   
Yeah? Well, I think it's, it's starting. There's no NASA project. There's a supposed project. I don't remember what the name of it is. Maybe y'all could help me, but there's no project NASA has completely debunked all of this, but there's a couple of things happening at the same time. There's going to be Eclipse around that time and supposedly, and like Jason said in the intro, which I liked your intro today, talking about the Earth would have to basically disappear because of the mass.

Ian  
They're calling it. They're calling it project anchor. That's it. Project anchor, thank you.

Stoney   
They're saying that it's going to happen because of two black holes in the area. Okay? So that's the basis, that's the basis they're going to have the Eclipse, and two black holes are doing something. Now, remember, they just had two satellites that were 137 miles apart, that have been traveling around the Earth, measuring our gravity field. Okay, and they've measured some significant changes in that, but it's microns, but that's still significant, right? And so they're putting, you know, somebody started this video of the Earth going to lose the gravity for seven seconds, and what's going to happen to us? And it's interesting. I don't know that it's possible, but, you know, we don't know what black holes can do either, right? Well, it,

Jason  
I was kind of doing a little just trying to figure out what to really information on this topic. But it appears that this story kind of traces back to the 70s April Fool's joke, really, okay, I didn't see that by astronomer Patrick Moore, okay, he said a rare planetary alignment would briefly reduce gravity and people might feel lighter at a specific time. No way. It was satire, and listeners called in saying they felt it No way. Classic human, human brain moment, suggestion is powerful, and physics was not involved in that, but, but they say an internet legend was born

Stoney   
War of the Worlds, just in a different fashion, right? Yes, that's crazy.

Jason  
Yeah, they said gravity isn't a force generator inside Earth. It's the result of mass bending space time, meaning matter changes the geometry of the universe around it.

Stoney   
Well, you have to think about it like this. Okay, let's say the earth Lost Gravity magically. Let's say somehow, it lost it, the moon would take off. Oh, yeah, but the sun would still be holding some things with its power, right? And you just wouldn't shoot off. If magically, gravity disappeared, you wouldn't be shooting off into space. Yeah, you would hover now if you were in a car or a jet, yeah, whatever that speed is, whatever direction that is, that's where you're gonna go, and you're not gonna so if you're running, okay, Jason, he's running out, doing his little half marathon thing. Yeah, he's just gonna keep going. He didn't have to move his legs, yep. And, and I think that's fascinating. But then what is the sun still going to do? What? How is that pool going to be? We don't feel the sun's gravity because we have our own that overpowers that. But what's that going to do? Think about this all you have a nice waterfall. Well, the water is not going to fall anymore. So if it's coming off on the cliff, the water is going to keep going straight. Yeah, right. What are the oceans going to do? Right? What's going to happen to the tides? There won't be any. But think about this too. The gravity holds the atmosphere down too. Oh, yeah, right. So now where's our air and oxygen going to go?

Ian  
Yeah? Floats away, just floats away. That's crazy.

Jason  
Yeah, they said for gravity to drop to zero for even one second. They give basically two, two possibilities, Earth's mass would have to vanish. So in essence, the planet would have to disappear.

Stoney   
Or what happens if some black hole things happened, and that little because

Jason  
now you, but now you're getting into maybe some theoretical physics, and we don't know about what, what might that you know what that might entail. And they say, or the gravitational constant, and a way to describe this as a fundamental number of nature would have to change everywhere, everywhere in the universe simultaneously. So they say both scenarios break all known physics. Yeah, at that point, atoms, stars, chemistry, and probably reality itself stops behaving normally. Seven seconds would matter because the structure of the in the, you know, in the universe

Stoney   
collapses, yeah? But what a heck of a way to lose weight.

Jason  
Yeah, you would lose a lot of weight. Yeah, plant me. It says planetary alignment. Myth. Here they planets lining up does not cancel gravity. Jupiter, the biggest nearby player, affects gravity, affects Earth's gravity less than a part truck affects you standing next to it, okay? Tides from the moon move oceans and even that doesn't make you lighter in any noticeable way. Yeah. So interesting. Yeah, they say alignment equals cool. Geometry, alignment, gravity off switch. So, yeah, I mean, some of this stuff, you know, Earth's magnetic field. Confusion is that Earth's magnetic field protects us from solar radiation. We all know, everybody talked about the ozone layer, and there was a hole, and they worry about UV light.

Stoney   
They say that smaller now that ozone hole is smaller. Yeah. They say, Matt, they still want your money.

Jason  
Oh, yeah, of course they do. Earth's magnetic fields, you know, your it just protects us from solar radiation. Has nothing to do with gravity. A compass cares. Your body weight does not magnetism and gravity are completely different interactions.

Stoney   
One other thing, if I may, throw in there is, they say that in earth, the life of the Earth, it has stopped spinning and changed direction twice, wow. Oh, I forget we talked about that. That's, that's 1000 miles an hour, correct? Stopping and turning the other direction. And that happens because the polls are turning, and at some point, and I guess I wish we had a scientist,

Jason  
I think, I think that we had kind of talked about, saw something on that regarding, you know, if the earth stopped rotating, what would happen? It would not be a good day for us, no, because, in essence, if it's moving 1000 miles an hour, and then it stops, and the motion continues, the oceans are moving on 1000 miles. So you could imagine, just sort of like, what you do with water, how, you know, of sudden you stop, and then water gets all weird and

Stoney   
Oh, but. Think about like this, you would be moving now at 1000 miles, and I all are Brian, I wouldn't be splat on the walls.

Jason  
We'd be splat. I mean, the oceans would completely overrun. The would be, would be emptied from their basins and would be thrown up on land. And it would be bad deal. I mean, it really would. I know people talked about in the past regarding magnetic pole shifts. And, you know, there's all kind of talk about what would happen if that, oh, yeah, her, you know, people talked about that before I project a disaster. And people, you know, associate that with with climate. And, you know, these kind of, you know, terrible things that that happen. But, yeah, it's, but, yeah. I mean, it's,

Ian  
I found some things about the ozone layer we're talking about because I forgot about that until you mentioned it. It says a thinning of the protective ozone layer. This is mainly for over the Antarctic in the spring, caused by human made chemicals that release like chlorine and bromine, apparently, is what caused the whole issue to begin with. And it says, thanks to the 1987 Montreal Protocol phasing out these substances, the hole is slowly shrinking. The projections for full recovery by late 2060s is what they're saying is like, so the hole in the ozone may be fully healed by the 2060s which is crazy to think about. So, yeah,

Jason  
I don't you know they kind of hear a lot of people believe that some of this stuff,

Ian  
they say it's crazy before you continue. There's it's crazy that, like, I've also heard that there are some, like, common misconceptions and beliefs about the world and how things work, or something I don't have the full statistics on it, or like, the Flat Earth Theory, yeah, and other things like that that happened because of, like, a joke, or because of something published a long time ago, right? And just because the text is old, people believe it, because it's like, oh,

Stoney   
well, apparently Jason said this started in the 70s, right, right, playing a

Ian  
joke buddy. I'm talking about things that, like happened even in, like, the 1800s and things like that, that there's like, apparently. Anyways, I wish I would. I didn't think about that until we

Jason  
started talking. I mean, as I said, as of right now, for gravity to stop, even for seven seconds, it would completely destabilize the entire universe, and we probably don't want to be around if that happens now, I will concede that maybe we don't have a full understanding of our reality. I've always kind of said that we are very much ignorant of, I think of our own natural world, and what I mean by the natural world kind of the, just the forces that govern us and everything else,

Stoney   
especially since we're all living in the matrix anyway. You know, people can say that. He almost said, Oh, here we go again. Yeah, well, here we go.

Jason  
Not, you know, I just, I don't, I don't believe we live in a matrix. But, I mean, I sometimes I feel like we do, but yeah, I think we have to, you know, look at these things that come about. And, of course, you listen to this stuff, and it does sound good. Oh yeah. I mean, it sounds sometimes very compelling. Now, as I said, my one concession when it comes to this thing regarding gravity is, you know, the presence of potentially black holes. And we don't really know how black holes affect space time, you know, because the common understanding is a black hole's gravity is so strong that not even light can escape it can escape from it.

Stoney   
So one of the fears of CERN is that they'll create a black hole.

Jason  
Well, I'm here on the planet. They can, they can. I believe there's been some.

Stoney   
That's what I'm saying. They created one for like, a

Jason  
billionth of a millisecond. Gotta shut it down, because,

Stoney   
what if that happens? What if that's our fault

Jason  
turning Well, if you create a black hole, then good luck. And I don't think anything can save us at that point. I mean, it's right. I mean to me, we know black holes. Theoretically, I don't even know how an idea, for people who don't know really about black holes, black holes is it's supposedly according what science would say was a star collapses upon itself at the end of its life, and it gets so small and so dense that so quickly, so quickly, that it compresses to unimaginable small, small levels, and that that that compression creates this hole. Now there's people to say that, you know. It maybe pops you out somewhere else, and they call them white holes, and you know, the other side of a black hole would and all that. I don't know. Maybe, maybe there's some truth to that. Maybe I

Stoney   
heard somebody talking. I saw a video years ago. Man, I wish I thought we were gonna talk. I'd have found that video for us. But the scientists kind of described it in a way of, if you look at a pond, or you look at the ocean, there's so many currents in that thing, right? Yeah, which is basically what the universe is doing, yeah. He says, but in the middle you'll see a little swirl, and over here you'll see a little swirl. And he's and he's basically trying to describe, that's how the universe is working. And you get this little squirrel, this little swirl that could be started by a planet or a star imploding on itself, but he said, that's how you look at that. Yeah. And I'm like, That's interesting, that that's, I wish I would have shot a known we were going this route, because I pulled that up and showed you all that, but it was just kind of an inch, a layman's way to look at it. So and then we want to go and create one with CERN, yeah.

Jason  
Well, it says, like, here, I'm looking here, I said I'm looking at some verified articles on this topic, and I see scam advisor list an article, Earth will be losing gravity for seven seconds on August 12, 2026 real or fake. And the article breaks down the rumors origins, explains there's no evidence of NASA involvement or real source, and confirms no scientific basis for the claim, of course, Yahoo, UK NEWS, fact check post citing NASA claim Earth will lose gravity for seven seconds. Details the viral project. Anchor conspiracy narrative, including the leaked document text, and rates the claim as false. Unilad, if I'm pronouncing that right, NASA responds to theory, Earth will lose gravity on August 12 for seven seconds, quotes NASA saying there's no truth to the idea, and explains that gravity is tied to Earth's mass, which we just kind of got finished talking about, the BBL V new conspiracy theory, Earth will lose gravity on August 12, 2026 covers how social posts spread. The claim includes, suppose details from the rumor and highlights that scientists dismiss it as impossible.

Ian  
So how did this come back about if this was something that was, like, joked around about, it was like an April Fool's thing back in the 80s,

Stoney   
somebody made a viral video of it just kind of, kind of took off. Really, it's true misinformation,

Ian  
interesting, just

Jason  
took off. Yeah, anybody can post on and now you never

Stoney   
know what's just gonna take Yeah, trying to figure out why we wish our listeners would share us so much that we would take off, maybe so help us out, guys, yeah,

Jason  
I just, you know, the good thing, you know, social media and people being able to circumvent the kind of The normal channels that where we have derived information from, for, you know, since the 40s, right? You know, that's that's been replaced, and now we have this kind of open source. Everybody's kind of their own media and and unfortunately, while it has good points, it also has bad points, because there's no way of really verifying what's what's really real or not.

Stoney   
The good thing about it is through covid and some of the government stuff we've been talking about for a couple of years now that the joke was that conspiracy theorists are up 42 to nothing right now, it's nice that we can throw another conspiracy out there and kind of even those odds out. Yeah, you know, because for a while there they move the conspiracy theory section to the the headline news section of the bookstore. So Well,

Jason  
talking about the origins of this, I'm reading an article here in this scam advisor. They say on December 31 2025 Instagram user at Mr. Daniel Mr. Underscore. Daniel underscore of posted a brief video of the text overlay that read on August 12, 2026 the world will lose gravity for seven seconds. NASA knows they're preparing, but won't tell us why. Because, however, as the time of of this writing, of the writing, January 26 2026 we were unable to locate the post. It may have been deleted by either platform or the creator around January 6 or seventh. Despite this, many people who believe the post. Continue to share this information across various social media platforms, feeling widespread panic,

Stoney   
of course, think about this. How many people believed a lot of the crap on what was it the Inquirer? Oh, yeah, or some of those other magazines, this is just a bigger platform for people to believe some BS, but how many? I mean, people, actually, you know this alien, do you remember? And people were like, Oh, my God, you know

Ian  
that was like the radio show. Can't remember his name. Coast to coast, yeah, coast to coast.

Jason  
Every time. You know, if I worked late, if I was up all hours of the night I was listening to Art Bell, yeah, midnight in the desert. Oh, god, that was some great stuff. Yeah, he had some good stuff. I mean, he really did. I mean, and he was a pioneer, and, you know, I always pictured him and this kind of out in the middle of nowhere, because he operated Las Vegas in Nevada, where he's at. Matter of fact, they, you know, our bells pass. It's now by George Noory, or, I think that's his name. He's kind of taken over the show, yeah, but, but they showed where he's buried him and his wife. And Art Bell was a was, I mean, Guy was, was was really smart. He was big into electronics and stuff like that. So, but yeah, I mean, he pioneered. He was the guy that really kind of started all this stuff, all this weird things. And he actually had some pretty interesting guests.

Ian  
What was his show on his show,

Jason  
coast to coast, okay. Bart Bell show, oh yeah, yeah.

Stoney   
Who else just passed? Kurt von Donegan, real author of Chariots of the Gods, just passed, really. And I was like, Oh man, yeah. You know, that's sad, because that book kind of put me into a direction. And there was two books that put me in a different direction in life, and it was Chariots of the Gods and my side of the mountain, yeah. And those, those two books early on. I mean, when I was a kid, and just his passing was just, I was like, that's so sad, yeah.

Jason  
Well, you know, I'm sure he was

Stoney   
because if we were ever to do the episode, if you got top five people you want to have lunch with, yeah, I might would add now that with the stuff we're getting into in the show, I might would have added him at least as a honorable mention, right?

Jason  
Oh, well, you know, I mean, you know, these, these, these people that really kind of push the boundaries, and I like the, I mean, it's good stuff, yeah, I consume that. Y'all subscribe to Gaia TV. They have a lot of this kind of stuff, right? Yeah, they do a lot of this stuff.

Ian  
Is it more like conspiracy type stuff or, yeah, it's a

Jason  
lot of that. It's a lot of you know that that kind of that genre of material, right? Matter of fact, you know, I think the guy was on there. I watched a good guy that said, supposedly, he's, he's a, I forget what he I forget what he was, but member of this organization, yeah, or he was a high ranking member of it, kind of like a, you know, Illuminati, or, okay, you know, some like, those kind of groups that, you know, he had all kind of information about what's hidden, but so it's all kind of like geared toward, you know, what is it called? Again, Gaia. What Gaia G, A, I A, I believe it's called Gaia TV. It's a subscription service. You okay, pay for it and but, I mean, if you really want to get almost I had it at one time and I just stopped it, because it's just, you know, more money, of course, but I may, if I may, drop it just to get it back, because I can get a lot of good stuff for, like, show, The Show. I mean, it's probably would come in handy to be able to see some of this stuff, and then you can go watch this stuff on your own and and get some good ideas on topics for you know that we can share with our listeners out there. Because, you know, we've said it many times, it's it's difficult to find topics to talk about every weekend, and

Ian  
the one I'm seeing right here is the secret life of symbols with, yeah. Jordan Maxwell, yeah. What about the talks about secret societies? At least that's what I was. I was doing a little quick search to see what, uh, what came up on Gaia, apparently.

Jason  
So, yeah, is it in the early in J in early January? This New Year's rumors circulate online that Earth would lose gravity for seven seconds on August 12, leading to the leading to 40 million deaths from falls.

Ian  
That's what they claim. Yeah, among

Jason  
other cataclysmic outcomes. Well, I can't tell you, if you lose all gravity for second, seven seconds, yeah, it's gonna be a lot more than 40 million people dying, I can assure you, because I just like, now I'm looking at things, the oceans floating up in the air, you know? I mean, how all that would work, and then all of a sudden, when it snaps back, and all sudden, yeah, yeah, that would be bad. Yeah, that would be bad. You don't want to do that

Ian  
talking about conspiracy theories and stuff. I was listening to a podcast that was also talking about something we talked about a little while ago, talking about the world populations not being accurate. And they were they talked to someone who is from China, who lived in China. And of course, they had talked about, like, what the actual number? What what they claim to be, the actual what China claims to be the world popular the population of China is. And the lady that is from China was like, that's, there's no way, there's no way that that number is factual for China. There's no there's not that many people there. And she, like, kind of had some belief. It wouldn't surprise me if those numbers have been inflated. But then then they started going on a tangent about how, like, well, how many more countries kind of fudge the numbers or may not have 100% accurate information. And then they started talking about a little bit, I was like, Oh, we kind of talked about that months back, or whatever, talking about little fun conspiracies and what it may

Jason  
be, yeah, just real quick, I'm now I remember this, this little video clip of this guy where this, this whole thing came out regarding this, this, this rumor of this gravity being lost for seven seconds. He said it, you know, I kind of mentioned it became available, unavailable on January 6 or seventh, said, meaning its post was not live at the time of publication, it shared a brief video of a man who did not speak, sitting in a car overlaid text on the footage read on August 12, 2026 the world will lose gravity for seven seconds, NASA knows they're not, they're they're preparing, but won't tell us why. So I'm looking at the picture right, right, right. I think I remember this interesting.

Ian  
Yeah, so it just that one little thing says, and then before you know it, it explodes into this widespread panic. That's interesting.

Jason  
Yeah, it said here on the deal. Key facts, duration, 7.3 seconds, expected casually, 40 to 60 million what will happen? One to two seconds, everything, not secure, will rise, people, vehicles, animals. Three to four seconds, objects will continue to rise for 215 to 20 meters. Five to six seconds, panic and chaos will ensue as people hit ceilings and it goes on.

Ian  
So, yeah, how they get they give all these fake details. That's so that's crazy. They'll sit here and they'll keep, I don't know, that's wild. They say they have a whole story, like, like, like, they have it all planned out, like it's some sort of, you know, yeah, I said no.

Jason  
Comic book in November of 2024 a secret NASA document titled project anchor leaked online. The project's budget is $89 billion holy, and its goal is to survive a second seven second gravitational anomaly, expecting August 12, 2026 at 1433, yeah, I don't know they said the post estimate they would be over 40 million deaths from falls, infrastructure destruction, economic collapse lasting over 10 years, and mass panic.

Ian  
If that's true, I feel like we would have heard about it, or we would have just something else would have been done to prepare us for it. But I don't know they

Jason  
said it ensures that, while NASA's website said a total, total solar eclipse would occur on August 12, 2026 the rumor about Project anchor and gravity loss was false. So, yeah, I don't know.

Ian  
You take a little nugget of truth, I'm telling you, there's, I feel like conspiracy theories, I think are great at you take a little bit of truth and a little bit of unknown, and it just is that perfect middle ground for you, for you to just this little breeding ground for whatever you want

Jason  
to do, they say. A NASA spokesperson said via email that the rumor was not true. The earth will not lose gravity on August 12, 2026 Earth's gravity, or total gravitational force, is determined by its mass. The only way for the Earth to lose gravity. Would be for the Earth's system, the combined mass of its core, mantle, crust, ocean, terrestrial, water and atmosphere to lose mass. A total solar eclipse has no unusual impact on Earth's gravity. A gravitational attraction of the sun and moon on the earth, which doesn't impact Earth's total gravity, but does impact tidal forces as well understood and is predictable decades in advance?

Ian  
I wonder. I don't know. I wonder what I mean. I wonder is it, is it supposed to be a solar eclipse that's happening? Is that

Jason  
I think this is a total solar eclipse. Yeah. I wonder

Ian  
when the next one of those happening around here, where we could see it?

Jason  
Well, you can probably just Google, because all of its predicted. I mean, they can pretty much lay it out, yeah, whereas the bears gonna be the best places to be show you the line. Matter of fact, I believe for us where we're at, yeah, to see it, I think it's 2070 really. Yeah, it's gonna like pass right over our area.

Stoney   
I won't be here.

Jason  
Probably won't either. But

Stoney   
apparently, 40 million of us won't be August 12. August 12, yeah,

Ian  
let's see. I think there's actually a lunar eclipse come in March of this year. Yeah? Total, yeah. Total Lunar Eclipse. I did it for the state of Louisiana for us, but it looks like that. March 3 of this year is a total lunar eclipse. That's cool,

Jason  
yeah? I mean, it's

Ian  
partial solar eclipses. Yeah, I think, I think the next one we're gonna have is probably in 2040 something.

Jason  
Things might be falling apart in the 2040s according to the super computer.

Stoney   
Well, 2027 is when things start falling apart. 2040 is when everything will just be in complete chaos.

Jason  
I'll be very curious what's going to happen. That's to me. The whole that computer thing has really just got me thinking lately.

Stoney   
Well, you know, the other night, I think it was Monday night or Tuesday night, at midnight, the atomic what do they call it? The Doomsday Clock? Yeah, they moved it up. No, that it got as close as it's ever been, really, ever been.

Jason  
Wow. Yeah, well, I mean, people are predicting, you know, Trump is, his policies, is causing a reshaping of the global, global order. And, oh, yeah. And, you know, Europe has been saying that they don't, they don't need the United States anymore. And other Europeans are saying, up, hold up. It's not necessarily true.

Ian  
What is that now, the the doomsday clock.

Jason  
Who? Who mans that? Yeah, I don't know who

Stoney   
mans the group of scientists. I believe we'd have to look it up. Can you look

Jason  
that up? Oh, yeah, I was trying to look up the WHO mans the doomsday clock.

Ian  
Let's see.

Stoney   
I'm just curious. They need to just turn that over to AI now, right?

Ian  
Yeah, I'm just curious. I mean, unless it already is, the thing I'm curious about is, like, who? Like, does it just, I think we talked about this, and I still don't feel like I under I fully understand what the

Jason  
it's it's run by a non profit, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. I see that here, okay, yeah, founded in 1945 by scientists involved in the Manhattan Project who worried about nuclear weapons existential risk. So they said the actual hands are set by experts. A group called The Science and Security Board. Within the bulletin decides each year where the clock should sit, how many seconds to midnight ie catastrophe. They meet regularly to debate the latest risk landscape. I imagine they've been busy lately, because Trump's been giving them a lot of good stuff to think about.

Stoney   
So, yeah, a number

Jason  
of people, troop Trump, Putin, Ukraine, Zelensky, you know, Matt China, yeah. All of them.

Stoney   
Yeah. So Israeli Gaza, oh my gosh, yep.

Jason  
I don't know what's gonna happen there. This artifact is, I saw the United States was sending an aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf, right there for outside of Iran. Okay, I think something's gonna happen. In there.

Stoney   
I think we said, if you kill these people,

Jason  
I think, I think they're gonna allow Israel go in there. Wouldn't be surprised if they, if they go in there, okay, and it's, you know, we'll be there to prevent any escalation from anybody else who might be thinking of trying to run in there to go help Iran interest. But I mean, those people over there want the Islamic regime out of their country. That has been made clear. And Islam is not not native to Iran, so they should, it should be out of there. And I wish the best for those people, but I've been hearing some horrible things have been coming out of that. Many people have been killed. Yeah, I'm telling you, when you're willing to die for something, that's when you believe in it. Yeah, that's when you believe in it.

Ian  
Wow, that's crazy, I wonder. And you said that, you said that there's something in the Gulf there now,

Jason  
yeah, I think the United States was sending an aircraft carrier. I think I saw, Oh,

Ian  
I believe I heard about this. I believe I heard about this. You could probably someone get up. Someone was, yeah, the video, the video, I'm referring not like you can't hide an aircraft. Well, no, no. But what the video I heard was, is that once upon a time, Obama used to park around, used to park aircraft carriers as like museum pieces. But Trump, on the other hand, Parks them to like, like, uses them and uses them often to like, to move them into position and move them into place, to be like, Hey, we got a lot of expensive toys here. We're not afraid to play around with them as, like a kind of a show of force to hopefully scare people into submission a little bit and kind of keep people, keep certain governments and people in check with like, oh, okay, either we try to feed our people and we try to figure out that situation, or we try to put money into fighting this force that is much Bigger than we are, which I think is interesting. I think it's very true.

Jason  
So I'm looking at the different phases of the doomsday clock. Okay, years. I see a chart here from you know, has had one in 1947 1949 1953 1960 1963 991. It was like they really pushed it way back, because that was after the fall of Berlin Wall. So really, yeah, so everybody was kind of happy at that time. They left the United States, the sole superpower in the world. And 2020 it really shrank up. 2023 really shrank up 2025 about the same and a little bit on 2026 I think what Stoney says as close as it's ever been, really.

Ian  
So, what is? So? What? So, what does the clock? Does it hit zero? Does it like what is? Or do we know how that functions? And then, well, I'm

Jason  
reading an article here on the doomsday clock, as I said, it was the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, a nonprofit organization, that sought to warn the public about the danger of nuclear weapons.

Stoney   
It's, I think now it's more general of all of the information happening, how close we are to the destruction of civilization or the world, right? So I don't think it's just about nuclear. I think nuclear part, of course, yeah, but

Ian  
the biggest, you know, civilization weapon makes sense.

Jason  
I've noticed that the nuclear thing is starting to make a comeback, yes,

Stoney   
saying he'll use nuclear weapons if,

Jason  
well, it seemed like in the, you know, I remember growing up, I mean, nukes were very much a part of, kind of the the culture and how movies and, yeah, you know, remember those famous movies, threads, and the day after, oh, yeah, supposedly scared the Vegeta out of Out of President Reagan, and he kind of changed his tune on how he was approaching, you know, nuclear missiles and Persian, Persian twos. And just thought, I just kind of remember the news and all that. And one

Stoney   
of the most amazing movies about that was called Amazing Grace and Chuck never seen that? I don't think so. It's about a little kid who gets scared he sees a nuclear weapon, yeah, like on a class field trip, and he decides to stop playing baseball, and all a great number of professional athletes get involved in his protest of not playing and Gregory Peck plays the president. And I always liked that movie, if you maybe that would, you know, I'll throw this one out there for the aftermath. It was just an interesting movie about how those things do. Affect people, oh yeah, and how scared they are, and how it moves them and and what we've done by creating this type of weaponry. And I thought the little kid, and there was a couple, you know, pretty good actors, professional balls, but Gregory Peck, I think one of his last roles was the president and their relationship. And I thought it was interesting.

Jason  
Well, interesting. It appears that President Trump is resurrecting the the idea that President Reagan had brought up back in the early 80s regarding Star Wars. It's SDI Strategic Defense Initiative, you know, trying by building a golden dome and all these things. So I think, you know, people thought Reagan was a little crazy for saying what he did. And a lot of people take part of his statement like I know a lot of people took some of his statement to mean that he was probably aware of an extraterrestrial threat, right? And if you go back and hear that hit speech, they don't really follow up with the second part of it. It's the first part, but it's interesting how he framed that threat, a threat

Ian  
from out there? Yeah,

Jason  
he could have been meaning Soviets, missiles and, you know, stuff like that. So we don't know, but a lot of people

Stoney   
bring that. That's interesting, how he framed a lot of things. Yeah, I remember right after he got shot, I think he was in Germany, and he was talking to the crowd, and a balloon popped, and he goes, missed me, you know? I mean, everything he did, he was funny. He was just brilliantly funny.

Jason  
Yeah, it's, yeah, it's an interesting, an interesting time we were in with, with stuff. But, I mean, you know these stories, you know, come and go and it won't be the last. Now, do I, once again, you have take all these with a grain of salt, because there's probably some degree of truth, right? I believe NASA is definitely, probably has some things that they look at, of course, for contingencies, and how we would mitigate some

Stoney   
sort think about this. The Nazis had the bell. It was an anti gravitational device, supposedly, okay, that was in the 40s. Have we taken a little bit further to where maybe an anti gravitational device could remove gravity from a larger section of the world than just a bell, right? What? Where, you know? Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, Philadelphia Experiment, yeah, things like that. What you know? Where are we? You know, there's, it's always seems to be a little truth to some of these things. And you know that the CIA and the government uses Hollywood to kind of push some thought processes, to kind of acclimate us to get used to this stuff.

Jason  
Absolutely, absolutely they do. It's, uh, yeah, I think right now, if to me, what they need to be paying attention to is as asteroids, because I believe that is truly a bigger threat than what I think we give credit, you know, we kind of dismiss it, yeah, because we don't think it's gonna happen, but it can happen, and it doesn't even really have to take a big one to better cause a tremendous amount of damage.

Ian  
I think NASA is probably focusing on Artemis right now. That's probably the working on and they are there, you know, that's probably their big thing they're worried about. I think they are

Jason  
definitely or looking for ways to to get us to Mars.

Ian  
I will say not to, not to be too retrospective on about last week's episode. I got the chance to look up at, like, you know, how in the afternoon, like, sometimes you'll see the moon, yeah, like, kind of halfway in the sky. It was probably, like, two or three days ago, I like, looked out at the moon and just got a good chance. Just, kind of, like, it was a clear sky was the weather was lovely, like, I said, was like, early afternoon, sun was setting, and I like, looked at the moon and it being like, halfway shown, you know, in like, this kind of, like, afternoon sky. And I was like, and I really got a chance to just sit there for a second, and I was like, they're gonna take a they're gonna take a spaceship out of Earth and go around the back of that and come back around. Sound. And I got a chance to just like, sit here for a second and just like, look up at the sky and wonder for a second. And I was like, wow. And it just after, after, just after, you know, last week's episode us talking about that and having that experience, just sit there for a second and be just kind of amazed that that's going to be a thing that's going to happen that, not only like again, you know, 50 some odd years ago, or however long it's been that we've landed on the moon and planted a flag up there, but now that is going to happen in my and within, hopefully within a few weeks, or whatever. We need to, it's crazy.

Jason  
We need to, we need to set our sights on, on getting back there. Yeah, I would like to see. I mean, you would think by now, if, for whatever reason, if we could have continued, yeah, and the will would have been there to continue to push, we would have been on the moon. I would have had a moon base by now? Yeah, I really do. I truly believe we could have, we could have done that by now.

Ian  
I just, I think it's special, and I don't, I think, don't pass up the opportunity to slow down and just like, I don't know.

Jason  
I mean, I love going out. I really do sometimes just go look at stars. Yeah, we don't look at this up at the sky enough.

Stoney   
That's one of the things I miss about living two miles up in Colorado. Oh, I lived at 8900 feet, and the stars look completely different there. Yeah, well, I can see, oh yeah, everything thing and it's amazing. Oh

Jason  
yeah. I mean, it's,

Stoney   
and it's, there's no lights, there's no pollution. See some incredible just sit out there and you just look at it, and you're like, wow.

Jason  
Yeah, they are. There's, it's, it's on a clear night with no light, you can get away from the light, man, the sky can just, just come to life. I mean, it's just unbelievable what's out there. And it's like, you know, I can think of what those astronauts do when they get up there and see the Earth from that way. It's just a little, it's got to be emotional. It's got, I would, I would be emotional, yeah, I would be very emotional up there to see this is, yeah, this is the planet I'm from. I mean, this is this rock. I mean, there's nothing but the blackness of space and all around you, yeah. I mean, there's nothing.

Ian  
And, like we said before, they're going to be going on the opposite side of the moon, far farther away than any human has been, yeah, from Earth, and then come back around. Like, that was what that was, what got me in that moment when I sat there and I was like, the moon looks so far away in this moment, and, you know, with the light and everything around me, I was like, wow, this is crazy. Just for a second. Let me just take this in real quick. I just love looking at the pictures in the Mars Rover. Oh yeah, that's crazy. I mean, to see that, it's like, I'm you're actually now looking at

Jason  
the Another World, yeah. I mean, this is a different world that's never been touched by humans or, yeah, so opposed it, like conspiracy theory, another people say maybe that, maybe there was something there before at one time, but it's the closest to Earth. I think it would probably needs to a little cold, no atmosphere there. Just bring a jacket. You'll be fine. You may need, may need one of those $1.2 billion spaces that Elon Musk has bankrolled to figure all that out. So, but, yeah, that's fun. Yeah, this has been interesting. You know, just kind of talk about little it's one of those topics that, you know, you kind of look at it and go, Well, you know, let's, let's take a look at it, see what's all about, if nothing

Ian  
else, if we have to be The show that tells people, hey, it's actually all fake, then I think,

Stoney   
well, my worry is, is, you know, right now, it's, you know, 72 to nothing. Conspiracy theorists are, oh yeah, we don't want to go to 73

Ian  
on this. Yeah.

Jason  
Well, I'll be, uh, I will. When August 12 comes, I will. I'm not gonna say it's not going to be on my mind, yeah, just think maybe August 11 I'll be like, Okay, let's see what we're doing tomorrow. This is supposed to happen, so we'll see what happens. Yeah, don't think it's gonna happen, but just in case, it might, it'd be fun. I'll be indoors with everything else tied

Stoney   
down to something, yeah, might be fun in itself.

Ian  
Yeah, yeah. Fun topic. Yeah, exactly. Interesting. Anything else you want to touch on before we Yeah. To round out the show, I think this is good. All right. Well, for anyone who wants to give us your comments, we have comment sections on Spotify and on YouTube for the more short form responses, and if you want to give us your long form answers, we have an email address get infinite together@gmail.com, where you can send those and be sure to like and subscribe on all the different platforms you listen to us on, if you're not already, we really appreciate it and share it with someone that you think would like this or maybe not like this. And until next week, thanks much for listening. Bye, bye. Goodbye everyone, and God bless

Stoney   
if gravity disappeared for 10 seconds, the scary part wouldn't be floating. It'll be the moment gravity came back and everything. Cashed the check. I normally have a disclaimer on the show that says, if you find out that I've committed suicide, all my law enforcement friends and let them know I didn't do it. But I have to add something to that, if I actually ever go missing, let me save you some time. You don't need to go searching the hiking trails. Thanks for joining us. You're the best. Peace.